Cyberpunk 2077 I killed him, so he killed my frame rate

I killed him, so he killed my frame rate
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A brief summary on mods. Please read this if you think modders are doing something that CDPR can't or won't.
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I killed him, so he killed my frame rate

Posted: 21 Dec 2021 03:38 AM PST

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Cyberpunk x Blade Runner 2049

Posted: 20 Dec 2021 11:51 PM PST

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A Christmas Wish...

Posted: 21 Dec 2021 02:55 AM PST

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A brief summary on mods. Please read this if you think modders are doing something that CDPR can't or won't.

Posted: 21 Dec 2021 03:59 AM PST

On behalf of a community member, Romulus:

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I think I have touched on this subject before, but I'll recap. The modders are doing a fantastic job. They are doing things the developers can't at their current capacity or won't.

Take DJ Kovrik's minimap mod for example. It offered something better than what the game's minimap had, at the time. A great mod and a great solution to the problem the in game minimap presented. Then CDPR came out with their solution for the minimap, which obviously is a more sound and robust solution to the issue. DJ Kovirk, with his coding skills and using a modding platform like CET, did the best he could which was at the time of the mod's release, the best solution. But that solution used a workaround, and had some limitations.

CDPR's official fix however, goes to the root of the issue, that tackles things like asset streaming that is tied into the minimap itself. Once they were able to solve that, they provided us with an overall better solution to the minimap issue.

The way KeanuWheeze introduced the metro station is simply brilliant. And the best part is, his efforts are 100% legit. I know him for being someone who has **integrity,** and he doesn't delve into using *"Stolen"* code, and the stuff he came up with is simply his magic and understanding of how things work in the game. The Metro Stations are a part of the Open World aspect of the game, and empty NCARTs you see randomly running through those tracks are actually something they coded into the game, it's supposed to go to from point A to point B then disappear throughout various locations. It's meant to give you the impression that the city has public transport, and obviously players wanted to experience that transport themselves.

CDPR probably had intentions of developing a fully working metro station at some point at the back of their mind, but for it to function to a level of satisfaction, something they could ship at an official capacity while maintaining a certain level of quality and standard. It'd take them quite the development time for implementing it the way they'd wanted to, and testing time as well, something they simply couldn't afford to.

As a modder, you can use some smoke and mirrors to get some features and stuff working that wouldn't pass the internal standard or requirements, and CDPR themselves probably wouldn't have approved the implementation of metro the way the Mod does. They'd have wanted you to be able to board the train, with passengers nearby, probably in a queue, things like that, instead of transitions that are clever solutions the mods and the modders can come up with.

That is the joy of being a modder. You can use your imagination, creativity and skills to get around certain limitations and demonstrate how things can still be implemented, which is what Wheezey did! With that said, saying things like CDPR are incapable or should just let the modders fix the game, etc. are just wrong. The official implementation would obviously be different than what mods can achieve. The official minimap fix is a good example of that.

Mods are there to enhance the experience, which is exactly what the brilliant modding community's doing. They are meant for a more tailored experience catered to one's taste. But saying that the devs themselves are incapable or lazy is just plain wrong. Modders already have the game engine and its assets presented to them to work with, something they didn't have to build them from scratch. I think the community sometimes forgets all this and just loves to jump on the devs are lazy/incapable bandwagon, without not really looking through the entire context.

- Romulus

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V is for Vogue

Posted: 21 Dec 2021 04:07 AM PST